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THE PAGE DEDICATED TO THE ALLEGED 1970s UFO CRASH/LANDING ON THE SLOPES OF CADER BERWYN IN THE BERWYN MOUNTAIN RANGE OF NORTH WALES.
At 8.38 pm on the evening of January 23rd 1974, an earth tremor shook an area of North Wales near the town of Bala, a population centre adjacent to Llyn Tegid (Bala Lake) and which lies on an established geological fault line. Thereafter, events unfolded which today perplex UFO investigators, which have become almost mythical and, which have spawned numerous conspiracy theories.
Seemingly, just two tangible events occured that evening upon which everything else has been built:
a) an earth tremor,
b) a witness to an unidentified illuminated object.
Some villagers from Llandrillo fearful of event a) left their homes as the ground shook and while out on an otherwise cold, dark and drizzly January evening, became aware of lights, luminescences etc on the mountain which climbs up above the said village. Putting two and two together, the reports to the local Police gradually by 9pm, turned into reports of a suspected air plane crash.
Some little time following the tremor, district nurse Pat Evans based in the neighbouring village of Llandderfel contacted the Police at the headquarters in Colwyn Bay herself, suspecting a plane crash rather than a quake for she had heard an explosion just prior to the tremor. On Police advice, but with no specific area to investigate, the Colwyn Bay Police asked her to assist if she could and so, she set off towards Llangynog, a road which cuts across the Berwyn mountain range and the logical way to go from her village, to observe anything she could and possibly tender practical assistance if in a position to do so. She also chose this way, as she believed any plane might have crashed on an area of mountain where previous craft had come to grief. Driving upwards and over, the top of this climb sees the countryside open up into bleak moorland. On her left, the nurse alongwith her two teenage daughters whom she'd brought along as they too were first aid trained, observed an egg shaped, pulsating and glowing object, positioned on a slope of Cader Berwyn, a mountain within the Berwyn range. After observing this for quite a few minutes from outside of her car, she became fearful of what she was actually seeing and drove back home, knowing what she had seen was no plane crash, but happy that the at least one mile distant object was being approached as she thought by rescuers, having noted several small lights zig-zagging up the slope towards it. These have been described as 'fairy lights'.
This brief account above, is the bare bones of the whole episode, which has spawned more questions than answers.
This page will sift the evidence (99% circumstantial) compiled by various parties over the last 30 years or so and gradually present it here.
Contrary to much of the rubbish bandied about in books and reports and on the Internet, Pat Evans is regretful that she ever mentioned what she had seen. She was effectively hounded out of her home by disrespectful UFO enthusiasts and these days spends much of her retirement abroad. Small wonder that people who treat others like this are incapable themselves of analysing evidence and testimony and presenting it correctly. She got hardly a moment's peace and in so harassing this woman, UFO enthusiasts themselves have probably done as much harm to this event's case as the debunkers. Despite that, Mrs Evans is as well, equally unhappy, about being misrepresented by virtually everyone with whom she has spoken about the event. Indeed, one of the few UFO investigators she has had any time for is North Wales based Margaret Fry. Nor, would she knowingly give any information to anyone directly or indirectly, which would be used to debunk her claim of what both she and her two daughters saw.
Virtually every interview given to investigators, individuals, TV production companies etc has been corrupted and her experience falsified.
Serious investigations though sporadic, didn't start until much later in the 1970s and over three decades, persons have come forward and made various claims, giving first hand eye witness accounts and virtually unproveable descriptions of events. Time itself has eroded much of the accuracy of such accounts and it is fair to say, that many of the witnesses appearing in later years are simply jumping on the band wagon. Careful analysis of claims often sheds doubt on testimony, testimony which far too many UFO investigators are too willing to accept. Even the most sincere witnesses are unclear when recalling events more than three decades previously. Much literature produced and published by some so called investigators is mostly from trawling existing compilations. Mrs Evans is astonished at some things published about her observation and is quoted as though she has been interviewed directly. This is not the case with many writers of the Berwyn incident and she does not know or has met such people.
Mrs Pat Evans CLAIMS for instance that she DID NOT see any soldiers or other military personnel that night. Indeed, she saw nobody. The only signs of life perhaps was the object she saw and the small lights near the object.
Claims that the public were turned away by the Police are false. Claims of a military presence almost immediately following the tremor and sealing off the mountainside for several days are false.
There was a significant military presence on the mountain range when a military jet did crash in February 1982 and just prior to the 70s, a plane crash took four lives and these over time have almost definitely become merged with the Berwyn UFO case. The Feb' '82 incident involved an RAF plane, which crashed on the slopes of a totally different peak in the Berwyn range - Cader Bronwen - which rises immediately above Llandrillo. Military activity centred here would be obvious to most villagers. For most villagers however, it is quite impossible to view the slope of Cader Berwyn three plus miles away.
Unbeknown to Pat Evans at the time, several other witnesses observed the object perched on the Cader Berwyn slope as they resided in properties which had a particularly advantageous situation. One particular and seemingly thorough investigator debunks the event by claiming that the object was nothing more than a 'poacher's lamp'. Police reports claim the presence of four miscreants poaching and the theory has been bandied about that it was Police torch lights guided by a local farming lad which were the smaller lights approaching the object (poacher's lamp) as seen by Pat Evans.
To be brutally frank, Mrs Evans did not see a UFO. She saw nothing 'flying', only her Object sat on the mountain slope. She does of course get the credit for bringing her sighting to the public's attention in due course, but others did see the object as a UFO - an unidentified flying object.
Theoretically, Mrs Evans could have been mistaken and maybe it was a lamp, but then there is the question of witnesses observing the same scene from a totally different angle!! This puts paid to any debunking claim that the light was two dimensional (a lamp). They observed the object disappearing from their view some 45 minutes or so after the same witnesses watched it descend in a controlled manner. Another witness possibly saw the same object departing and passing low over the village of Llangynog. All these people independently of each other saw the object. Everyone vigorously rejects the poacher's lamp conclusion. Indeed, the location of where the poacher's vehicle was parked, where they claim to have been, and where they could not have been due to the terrain and the equipment being carried, casts serious doubt on the authenticity of certain 'official' documents.
The confusion over Police road blocks and the turning away of persons trying to access the mountain arises from the fact that land was sealed off by Police and military on the 13th of February 1982 and for several days. No one was excluded from anywhere on the Berwyn Range in January 1974.
UFO literature about this case suggests that civilians attempting to drive up roads/trackways to get nearer to the event, were turned back by Police; even armed military types. Again, this is almost definitely a confusion between a genuine air crash of a military plane and this UFO incident. Civilians were stopped from accessing that area of the mountain RANGE where the plane crashed. Indeed, local farmers too were excluded from their own land, but I reiterate, this was in 1982.
Later in this write up, the map references of all locations will be published herein, further proving that events were confused and that the 1974 UFO event on Cader Berwyn could not possibly be anything to do with poacher's lamps.
The only main road applicable to all this, was the Bala to Llangynog route (B 4391) and that road was never blocked off. Of course, that main road is the only road geographically relevent to the UFO sighting.
Readers should note, that in 1982, a major clean up operation took place on part of the range, over several days, just to recover one military plane and one dead pilot. It was high profile. A crashed and recoverable alien craft would take even today, several weeks to recover especially if in an isolated situation which might require the construction of entire roads or the laying of artificial road beds to permit access with heavy machinery.
Recently, a Virgin express train derailed in a remote spot in the English Lake District. This required heavy lifting gear and the building of makeshift roads just to reach the railway line. And that is with today's technology. Yet some UFO enthusiasts still adhere to the belief that a crashed alien craft, perhaps in excess of 20 feet in diameter and still relatively intact, was transported off by an articulated lorry.
If such a feat was possible, it would be well nigh impossible to access the area of mountain where Mrs Evans saw her craft.
There was no known military presence of any description until a small team of mountain rescue personnel turned up having travelled along the A5 from RAF Valley in Anglesey. Another search commenced the next day and was concluded in early afternoon with 'apparently', no result.
There is also the issue of why if a civilian plane was suspected of crashing (and the military would know immediately if it was a craft of theirs), local mountain rescue people were not called upon to assist. They would have had intricate knowledge of the Berwyn range, but strangely were never consulted. More strange as these were employed in assisting in other military crashes but not this one!!
That is quite an intriguing and stunning piece of evidence and one which sadly can fuel conspiracy theories.
As abovementioned, one report widely regarded among UFO enthusiasts as a debunking exercise by a sceptical UFO investigator claims that nurse Pat Evans was mistaken, and actually observed poachers using a makeshift lamp. The 'fairy lights' she observed were according to this literature, Police torches conducting a search, and that at some point, both poachers and Police met. The Police had apparently discovered the poacher's vehicle obstructing the narrow track, on the way up to where the mountain slopes proper started.
In this particular report, the said poachers were asked if they had heard or seen anything to which a negative reply came. This assumes that these men did not witness either a plane crash or a UFO. What seemed to be missing from the report was that the poachers didn't seem to have either dogs and/or guns; a prerequisite for any poaching foray involving lamping. It is normal to have either guns or running dogs for this activity whether conducted legally or illegally.
Had they guns, then those men would have been caught red handed and guilty of a most serious offence, armed trespass. At the very least, they were guilty of 'trespassing in pursuit of game at night'. Both are arrestable offences, yet nothing appears to have come of this. Even if they detected the Police approaching and hid their weapons, a lack of dogs would then arouse any half decent officer's interest that weapons must have been hidden. After all, these were rural Police officers endowed with knowledge of rural crimes. Had this occured, the poachers would need to return to the mountain to recover such weapons; not much chance of that if the land was sealed off and swarming with no nonsense military personnel.
The idea of poachers arose from nothing more than that comment being made by Huw Lloyd to the Police when they came across the poacher's vehicle on route from Garthiaen Farm to Cader Bronwen. The persons concerned were not adverse to a spot of poaching on land where they had no authority to be although they did go here and there legitimately, hence the description stuck.
Other more sinister sounding reports suggesting things like a military presence 'before' the crash/landing and alien bodies being shipped off in oblong boxes are wrong, if only that had the military been awaiting an incoming object, they didn't clear the mountain range of poachers!!!!
Having inspected the area closely where this report claimed the poachers where and where the object was that Mrs Evans had observed, it is clear that the poachers had they been at large on the mountain at that point, would have had a commanding view along the range towards Llandrillo, Cynwyd and the A5 near Corwen, some 8 miles or more distant. They would have seen any impacting meteor, plane or UFO. They saw nothing.
In this same report, it is claimed that the search resumed the next day and concluded around 2.15pm. A suspicious anomaly here, is that if this report was accurate and poachers did indeed use a lamp which was the subject of mistaken identity by the nurse, and if they met and spoke with the Police where it is claimed they where, it would be obvious that no crash of anything had happened. The poachers had an almost uninterrupted commanding view of open mountain sides?
So why did the search resume the next day? And again, why not utilise local mountain rescue knowledge? Under normal circumstances, local mountain rescue volunteers would be called out to search for a lone, missing person, yet were ignored on this occasion for a suspected plane crash!!!!!!!!!!! Possibly a civilian plane with multiple passengers and thus multiple potential casualties. It might be understandable not calling upon civilians if a military plane had crashed, but that first night and seemingly into the next day until 2pm-ish, no confirmation existed of whether a crashed plane was military or civilian.
At first light (sunrise would have been a few minutes after 8am), twelve hours had passed between the tremor and alleged explosion. The authorities would have easily known by then if any plane was missing (military or civilian). So the search resumed, looking for a plane that wasn't reported missing??? Both the Police and RAF search teams still went onto the 'Berwyn Range'.
As it happened, reports of an explosion to the Police the previous evening which suggested a plane crash, gave no specific location (it was pure chance that Pat Evans took the route she did), yet the search next day took in the Cader Berwyn area of the mountain range. Why? There was no crash there, the poachers were there according to debunking literature and they saw nothing and lights reported by Llandrillo villagers were on Cader Berwyn.
They 'confirmed it' with their 'non-existant' presence and chat with the Police the previous night!!!! Yet the same location produced a curious scene for Pat Evans and her daughters.
Some debunkers have tried to state that the curious explosion heard at the start of the tremor was only audible in the Bala area. This is rubbish. Pat Evans herself heard it in Llandderfel five miles from Bala and others in Llandrillo, eight miles from Bala heard it.
Some Llandrillo residents claimed that from the village proper, lights and beams could be seen on the plateau area above the village. One resident speaking to the Police from the public telephone box claimed this too.
One has only to stand in the said box and look up and it is quite impossible to see beyond the horizon of the ridge above Llandrillo. Lights seen from that point, would only be beams from torches, lamps or other luminescences. No physical source of the lights could be seen.
It is possible that these were poachers' lamps or a confused picture of a later military crash. It is certain however that these reports did not refer to the Berwyn Incident simply because the mountain slopes and plateaux immediately above Llandrillo belong to Cader Bronwen. Not Cader Berwyn, which is some three miles away as the crow flies, and four miles to the B4391.
So all village reports claiming lights above Llandrillo refered to an event on Cader Bronwen. As nurse Pat Evans plus two daughters and other witnesses saw the object on the Cader Berwyn slopes from the Bala - Llangynog road (B 4391) and over looking residences respectively, the two events cannot be linked.
It is impossible.
Police records of the event do exist but like so many 'paper trails', especially relating to documents 'discovered' years later or which surface via anonymous mailings etc, a wise person treats such with caution. Some Police records allegedly show that they spoke to the poachers coming off the mountain when the Police were going up. Conclusion here - the lamp was the UFO and the fairy lights seen were the Police torches.
What is significant here, is that when challenged on an Internet forum, the report's author claimed the Police gave tacit support to the poachers because of the community traditions etc. That explains away why criminals, possibly armed, were not immediately arrested by the said Police officers.
Of course they were not arrested, as the meeting of Police and 'poachers' never occured.
The Police were guided up onto Cader Bronwen (that's where the lights were) by a local farmer's son, Huw Lloyd. He has told UFO investigators over the years, that the Police went only a little further beyond the gateway to the open mountain. They were there for about 30 minutes only. The Police ventured no further. Claims in official documentation stating otherwise, are quite simply false. The officers and the farming lad saw nothing unusual other than an intense bright white light a little to the south which lasted about ten seconds.
Police reports that officers ventured on foot onto the open mountain 'anywhere' are false and quite simply cover the actions of the said officers who did not spread out and search. And why should they? They too had a commanding view and any crash would have been instantly obvious - flames for example. Once off public roads, Huw Lloyd drove the vehicle along tracks covering a rough circle before returning to the start point.
From this particular report's alleged involvement of poachers in the case, there are also irregularities in the description of how lamps might have been used and in such a way, that any witnesses misinterpreted the light. The author of this nonsense clearly has no understanding whatsoever about the poaching method employed and the environment demanded by the quarry.
Bearing in mind that this was 1974, the tactic of lamping was then widely known and employed, mostly, by the poaching fraternity. Its use involves walking against the wind and carefully sweeping the beam over a field for example. This illuminates any animals ie, foxes, rabbits etc. Trapped in the beam, the quarry cannot see outside of the beam and thus do not detect an approaching running dog ie, lurcher, greyhound running in from outside of the beam. If shooting, it is relatively simple to take aim and shoot the target in the beam. Lamping demands that a dog and or gun is used. Occasionally if terrain allows, lamps can be run off the battery of a moving vehicle. This latter demands massive areas of open space and most often the use of a rifle. No such land exists anywhere on the Berwyn range.
LAMPING IS A HIGHLY MOBILE ACTIVITY. ANYONE WHO SUGGESTS THAT A POACHER'S LAMP WAS IMMOBILE AMIDST TERRAIN UNSUITED TO BOTH QUARRY AND DOGS, CLEARLY HAS NO UNDERSTANDING OF THE TECHNIQUE OR OF BASIC NATURAL HISTORY RELATING TO BRITISH WILD MAMMALS.
These days, lamps come with rechargeable battery packs, are light to carry and can be up to 5 million candle power. Even lamping with one of these modern affairs, gives only about an hour or so's burn time. In 1974, lamps were constructed from cumbersome car batteries attached to a car headlamp and this is what poachers would have had if poaching on Berwyn. The battery drain time is about 45 mins. A bit longer if conserved well. So it is strange indeed, that these poachers would waste their battery charges by simply sitting on the mountain side blatantly advertising themselves for so long. Unless they were totally incompetent, they would not waste their battery charges unnecessarily. Lamping is a highly mobile exercise and involves sweeping ground to illuminate quarry. A 'poacher's lamp' does not sit there for some 45 minutes, not moving.
Mrs Evans reported an egg shaped object, structured and stationary. This has become (against her wishes), a two dimensional light to undermine her observation. Also, as she could 'see the poachers' from the Llangynog road, so too, would the criminals have been able to observe her car head lamps travelling along the route. Then stopping, then turning around and stopping again for longer. Surely these poachers would have assumed that the headlamps in fact belonged to a Police patrol car or gamekeeper's vehicle? Yet it seems, that they just carried on sitting there wasting their battery.
Even if poachers were present as claimed and if armed with a lamp, the sheer weight and limited lamping time of the contraption precludes any lamper from being so high up on the mountain slope. Indeed, the ground on Cader Berwyn is totally unsuitable for running dogs. The terrain is not particularly good habitat for rabbits and hares and this suggests too that poachers were not present at the site of the UFO, as one would want a maximum population of quarry species present to justify the risk of flashing about a lamp on open mountain side, where it could be seen for miles. The plateau area above Llandrillo is more good pasture and therefore more suitable for running dogs.
Recent evidence suggests that guns and not dogs were definitely used by the poachers. It will transpire too, that the poachers will turn out to be anything but poachers.
Some tracts of land at the northern end of the Berwyn range was and still is in the ownership of Rhug Estate, which has substantial pheasant shooting preserves.
Lord Newborough is the owner and this author has rented sporting rights from this estate near Caernarfon in Gwynedd via the Glynllifon Estate Trust. Glynllifon Hall in Parc Glynllifon near Caernarfon is now an agricultural college but was once the seat of the Newboroughs.
A former gamekeeper on the estate near Corwen is also an associate of this author.
Some southern Berwyn land was owned by the Pale Hall Estate from 1869 to 1948. It was then sold. The Estate was sold on again as smaller lots in the 1950s, but importantly, the sporting rights were retained. This means that even if land is sold to a new owner, the right to enter that land to shoot and conserve quarry species does not form part of the sale. The new owner is not permitted to shoot game on his land, only rabbits, pigeons and recognised pest species. Lower ground today serves as pheasant shooting territory, though the upland gamebird potential has in the last 20 years dwindled but was still preserved for gamebirds at the time of the event, making it even more unlikely and risky that poachers would be so stupidly overt.
The reality is, that the farming lad concerned has confirmed, that he escorted the Police up the track as far as the mountain slope gateway, then for a short time drove his Police commandeered land rover around a few tracks on the plateau fields above Llandrillo and which are most definitely part of Cader Bronwen and NOT, Cader Berwyn three miles to the south. They discovered the 'poacher's' car on the track part way up to the mountain gateway. The Police inspected the vehicle as it blocked their way and noticed that the vehicle was unlocked. They released the hand brake and moved the car then deployed an old tactic - taking the tax disc. The party continued onto the open hill with both Police and the farmer lad simply observing the scene. They saw nothing unusual and DID NOT speak to any poachers. Nor, did the Police at any point leave the vehicle to spread out with torches. For one, it was too cold.
Bearing that in mind, no claim can be made anywhere that Pat Evans saw a poacher's lamp or Police torches. Indeed, Pat Evans claims she never gave any information to the British Geological Survey that states she marked X on a map which then purports to claim that her UFO was a poacher's lamp and in the same small part of the mountain as the Police torches etc. Notes were taken by BGS field staff, but she herself did not physically construct any sketches etc.
Once over the ridge top (Cefn Pen Llety) immediately above Llandrillo, the land levels out considerably and offers good pastures. The land is still rising, but not steeply, going from the 300 metre contour to the summit of Cader Bronwen at 784 metres over a distance of two miles.
Near where the land does rise more sharply directly below Cader Bronwen peak, the area is crossed by the modern trackway but really an ancient route over the range, from just north of Llandrillo on the B 4401 to Llanarmon Dyffryn Ceiriog on the eastern side of the range. This is the route which passes the Moel Ty Uchaf stone circle and which apparently was once visited by well known UFO researcher Jenny Randles with I believe a Geiger Counter. Even at that point, such a well known investigator as Jenny Randles was 'taken in' and was searching Cader Bronwen land. The UFO was never there and the fact that Mrs Evans was 5 miles from Moel Ty Uchaf stone circle makes it even more bizzare.
Why she was there perplexes me as she was investigating an area some FIVE miles from where Pat Evans was located on the B 4391 and three to four miles from where the object MUST have been. Incredibly, everyone seems to have disregarded the fact that Pat Evans was miles away looking at an object anywhere but where investigators looked. Everyone homed in on Llandrillo because of nothing more than lamp beams and that happened for years after too. Essentially, because the police and a few military types plus scientists searched the land above Llandrillo, Mrs Evans must have been way of course with her testimony as to how close to the object she and her daughters were. Mrs Evans was treated as some kind of nutcase. In reality, her testimony was sound and it was the so-called experienced UFO investigators who were wrong.
Quite frankly, it is amazing that so many investigators tackled Cader Bronwen, based on lights which were in part assumed to be associated with Pat Evans' object, yet ignored the fact that she was at least four miles away. That has got to be one of the finest home goals in Ufology and to a point further demonstrates just how much UFO enthusiasts have twisted and wharped the facts to promote their outrageous conspiracy theories; in some, Mrs Evans doesn't even exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE, THAT MRS EVANS' TESTIMONY HAS BECOME LOST AND FANATICS AND SOME INVESTIGATORS HAVE CREATED THEIR OWN IMAGES OF EVENTS.
WITHOUT PAT EVANS AND HER TWO DAUGHTERS SEEING THE UFO THAT NIGHT, THERE WOULD BE NO BERWYN UFO INCIDENT. INDEED, WITHOUT LLANDRILLO RESIDENTS SEEING LAMP BEAMS, THEY WOULD HAVE DISMISSED THE EXPLOSION AS SIMPLY BEING PART OF THE SEISMIC EVENT.
There were seemingly four lads on the mountain (range) that evening (near Llandrillo) but they were not poaching, and under very early questioning later claimed that they had erected a tent and essentially camped out. They apparently spent most of the night sleeping and heard and saw nothing. Even if awake, they did not venture up the mountain slopes. Had an alien craft landed or crashed, they still would not have been in a position to see it. The camping bit was a ruse (despite camping in mid January!!) to explain their presence, with the car suggesting that they were nearby. They did not camp anywhere in reality. Although that story didn't stop some debunkers and other trouble causers initially claiming that the Berwyn UFO was a tent illuminated from within.
The truth is, that the poachers in fact were all related and were residents of Llandrillo. Unfortunately for the pro-poacher's lamp camp, the lads actually had legal consent to be lamping on the aforementioned fields so were not poachers. Their expedition was coming to an end and they were returning to their vehicle well before 9.30pm as their makeshift lamp had expired.
However, they almost arrived at their vehicle when they noticed the Police inspecting it. They all hid in trees just yards from the Police and watched. They were perplexed as to the level of interest and also chose to keep a low profile as the youngest of the group was armed and he was not legally entitled to be. They did not want a confrontation with the Police. They waited for a useful opportunity to leave the area.
The Police paid the car driver's home a visit next day, as the missing tax disc went unnoticed, so fed up waiting for the poachers to report the missing road fund licence the vehicle owner was interviewed about their presence. They just said that they were camping out albeit in a freezing January. As no crime could be detected, no charges ensued and the tax disc was returned. It was very likely that any questioning could have been simply to find out if they had indeed seen something that night that they shouldn't have.
The poachers DID NOT speak with the Police at any time on the evening of the Berwyn Incident. Any claim by the Police and any other writer on this case to this, is false.
This tent erection claim is almost definitely the source of an earlier claim by the above mentioned sceptical investigator and originator of the poacher's lamp theory, who once suggested that the light observed by Mrs Evans was a tent illuminated from within. What the author was suggesting there, was that poachers became campers on the 23rd of January and pitched a tent half way up a mountain slope, on private land, visible to all. Of course in the final published report, mention of the tent vanished and the object was relegated to a lamp.
I reiterate that the camping bit was a lie to the Police and anyone else who has recorded this.
Richard Foxhall wrote an interesting little book called Yr Ymwelwyr (translated as The Visitors), supported by an arts council grant. One chapter relates to the Berwyn Incident and the most striking thing about it when translated from Welsh to English, is that all the Llandrillo villagers unable to view the mountain range reported lights and beams on land above the settlement.
For instance at 21.00 PC 723 who was on duty in Llandrillo phoned in a report himself of hearing an explosion and that lights were flashing on the 'upper slopes' of 'CADER BRONWEN'. He feared a plane crash.
It was not possible of course for him or any other villager to see the upper slopes of any mountain from the village, so he was here assuming this based on personal observation and reports from the public. He observed lights from an unknown source, out of view over the horizon of the ridge known as Cefn Pen Llety. Regardless of what he saw, he was looking towards a totally different area of the Berwyn range to where Pat Evans observed her object, as were other Llandrillo villagers.
For the purpose of clarity, I'll write here, a quote from the book.
"21.00 PC 723 ar ddyletswydd ym mhentref Llandrillo yn ffonio i adrodd iddo glywed ffrwydrad anferthol, a bod golau yn fflachio ar lethrau Cadair Bronwen. Ofnai fod awyren wedi cwympo".
English.
"21.00 PC 723 on duty in Llandrillo village phoning to report hearing a huge explosion, and that lights are flashing on the slopes of Cader Bronwen. I fear that an aeroplane has crashed".
(Note Cader Bronwen. Not Cader Berwyn).
This report by the Police to the Police possibly originated from a call made at 20.54 by a Llandrillo resident who also reported later, of a Land Rover driving up towards the mountain (Cader Bronwen) later that evening. This was the vehicle conveying Police and a farmer's son acting as guide.
Again interestingly, the pro-poacher's lamp report states that an explosion was only heard in the Bala area. This is untrue as the above piece in Welsh clearly testifies.
Ffrwydrad anferthol translates as 'a huge explosion'. Pat Evans heard this herself in Llandderfel as previously mentioned.
It is without doubt however that the explosion heard by so many, initially and coupled with lights on Cader Bronwen, was the principle reason why it was thought a plane had crashed. In later years of course, some UFO enthusiasts translated this explosion into a crashing alien vehicle, for no other reason than Mrs Pat Evans had seen her mysterious hillside object. Some more extreme UFO enthusiasts even believe that an impacting UFO sparked off the tremor. That of course is absolute rubbish if for no other reason than the epicentre of the tremor was several kilometres below ground near Bala some eight miles from Llandrillo and ten from the summit of Cader Bronwen.
Later in the chapter, the author having received a letter from AHB3 (RAF) dated Jan' 1st 1998, discovered that searches of log books revealed that the only RAF Search and Rescue team involvement with any incident was to rescue a fallen climber on Crib Goch (a Snowdon peak) on the 19th of January 1974. There were no records of any RAF planes or helicopters from RAF Valley, taking part in any activity relating to the seismic event.
It was suggested that the author contact the Officer In Charge of the Mountain Rescue Team in Valley which he did.
The author a week later received a call at about 7pm and was asked by an Officer from Valley if their conversation would be taped. He wouldn't give his name, and said the records sought were not available.
His direct words were "Don't quote me on this, but all records for 1974 are missing".
If RAF documents are missing, one must ask, how the Police appear to verify that a three man search team did arrive after requesting such and again, such overtly search parts of the Berwyn Range the next day.
The day after the earth tremor, saw the arrival of a team of scientists from universities just over the border in England, who were following up leads that the tremor and explosion might have been caused by an impacting meteorite.
Certainly for an event like this to happen, a meteorite weighing several tons would need to impact and that would leave a massive and very obvious crater, with debris falling over an area of maybe a mile or more. There was no crater. Therefore, there was no meteorite (or UFO) impact.
Interesting here, is that these men knew that a few bolide meteors were seen the previous evening before and after the tremor. These shooting stars were blamed years later for causing people to believe they were UFOs. However, all the falling meteors were travelling (as visualised by eye witnesses), roughly from England heading straight for the Welsh border in the night sky. There were several reports of strange lights witnessed by people as far away as Cannock in Staffordshire and Congleton in Cheshire. Lights all heading towards Wales in the west.
One has only to stand in either of these two mentioned towns at night to see how this description of lights travelling towards Wales and almost (directly) towards the Berwyn range could evolve.
Strange then, that these scientists were searching the 'western' slopes of a mountain range - that is, the side furthest away from England. Had the meteors been travelling 'westwards' when falling, any impact would have been on the 'eastern' side of the mountain range.
So the picture now building, is of Police and search teams searching a mountain for a non existant plane, after witnesses testifying nothing happened, and scientists searching for an impact crater on the wrong side of the mountain. That is the debunking version which is somewhat leaky!!!!!
As previously stated, it was some years later before Ufologists got their teeth into a possible UFO event, though Mrs Evans was subjected to the usual sniggering and comments about 'dynion bach gwyrdd - little green men' quite soon after the event. Since then, a plethora of witnesses has come forward offering a vast array of information which forms several conspiracy theories.
One of the most obnoxious portrayals of the Berwyn case appears on a website created by Tom Slemen, a Merseyside based paranormal 'expert'. He appears on radio shows and writes regular columns in newspapers. Unfortunately, he also lies and enhances stories to boost his readership interest.
On his site is information which is a disgrace to Ufology and which has been copied by many ufologists without any regard to the content's accuracy.
They too are a disgrace.
Therein, this man claims that an alien craft crashed and left debris and extra-terrestrial corpses scattered over a mile of countryside. The said nurse Pat Evans witnessed this carnage and the military and Police in his version of lies, threatened her, whereby she promptly disappeared, never to be seen again.
As at the opening of this page, Pat Evans was simply driven from her home by so called but very moronic ufo enthusiasts.
Slemen also refers to a Mr Arthur Adams, who hearing of the alleged crash, visited the crash site and removed a substance with reproducing electrical qualities which he tested in his own laboratory.
Mr Adams did exist and was a geology enthusiast who collected geological specimens mainly from the Mawddach estuary area, a good 20 miles from Berwyn as the crow flies. He may or may not have visited Berwyn in 1980 as stated, but if he did, he certainly just didn't drop on the crash/landing site.
The EXACT crash/landing site is generally unknown and can only (for most enthusiasts) be described as being somewhere on the western slope of Cader Berwyn. The EXACT site is however known to this author, based on lines of sight from witnesses, the results of which all criss cross each other.
Slemen made up the above story to enhance a mystery and to do this, united two different stories. Mr Adams did exist. He has now passed on, but his son resides in Suffolk and refuses to discuss his father's find unless he is paid for the interview. As is often the case, anyone telling a story and who makes money out of it, immediately corrupts the story. Accuracy is instantly in doubt.
One tale still under investigation is, that a sister to the farming lad who guided the Police up to the mountain gate, a couple of months later found an unidentified substance (on the lower slopes of Cader Bronwen). This was handed to the local headmaster and was then apparently delivered to a Professor Aneurin Evans (no relation to Pat), a scientist at Keele University specialising in astro-physics. After an inordinately long time, the discovery was returned to its finder with the comment 'nothing of consequence' or such like. This piece of whatever was loaned at an even later date to representatives of a London university who turned out to be bogus and promptly vanished with the curio.
The curio was described as a large, shiny black clinker but quite light in weight for its size. It displayed different colours within. It was found in a field low down near Llandrillo and was so unusual and obvious, that it was soon realised that it was newly appeared. It was taken to the head teacher of Ysgol Y Berwyn in Bala and in due course, passed on to Dr Aneurin Evans one of the two Keele University scientists who visited the Berwyn Range on January 24th 1974, searching for a meteorite crater and who casually employed a handful of local kids to assist.
After a month or so, the sample was returned and described as nothing important, but Huw Lloyd insists that the returned curio was not that which he'd seen delivered to Dr Evans. Indeed, it was not only different, but distinctly smaller.
Some two weeks later, two people claiming to be scientists from a 'London university' turned up at the farm and asked if they could study the sample. They took it and it was never seen again. No trace of the two could be found.
Clearly, they were not aware that what they had might in fact have already been heisted. However, even if the original was nothing more than a piece of furnace slag, someone, somewhere wanted it taken out of public circulation.
That in itself suggests that something strange had happened on the Berwyn Range and any possible trace was to be confiscated and erased. It also suggests that at least two separate presumably autonomous agencies were operating to 'tidy up' the Berwyn Incident.
The curio obviously appeared strange to the young girl, and this promoted her interest, but again, as it was several miles from any UFO landing or crash site, it is most unlikely to have had anything to do with the event.
As time goes on, it becomes apparent that the 'evidence' for a SUBSTANTIAL crash of an extra-terrestrial vehicle becomes more unlikely. It appears most unlikely that an alien craft impacted Cader Berwyn with such force that it was smashed to pieces so to speak thus leading to a protracted clear-up operation.
As will be made apparent as this story builds. A distressed craft was either simply forced into a 'bumpy' landing which left minimal debris and other evidence or, it too was involved in observation of a genuine seismic event, and there was no crash landing. In this former, as soon as it was able, it departed.
How this former came to be distressed is a story in its own right and virtually every scrap of verbal and material evidence suggesting its predicament is circumstantial. But more anon.
One of the earliest and bizarre claims was that the earth tremor and an explosion was caused by an impacting UFO, or, the UFO was brought down by the tremor as it passed by; a crash which saw the mountainside sealed off, farmers excluded from their land, potential witnesses threatened with all sorts if they spoke of what they saw etc. Building on this, were claims of alien bodies, oblong boxes carrying them, road transportation to Porton Down etc, etc.
Again, an impacting craft would need to be as heavy as a metorite capable of causing the event, and that would have left a monstrous crater.
Another line of investigation doggedly pursued by a Yorkshire based UFO investigator is that the said UFO crashed following a 'shoot out' with military vessels at sea. As above mentioned, this theory is part of the plethora of theories about how the UFO crashed/landed. There might be some substance to this claim but is a trap for the unwary, as some evidence exists which suggests the location of this event was not where investigators might conclude it was. Again. more anon.
Another theory suggested that the military was even waiting for the UFO as if they knew it would crash on this particular Welsh mountainside. That of course is outrageous and as stated above in this write up, the military certainly didn't clear the mountain of witness poachers.
THIS AUTHOR HAS INVITED ANY AND ALL UFO ENTHUSIASTS INVESTIGATING THIS CASE, TO PROVE THE EXACT LANDING SITE ON THE SLOPES OF THE UFO. NO RESPONSE HAS BEEN FORTHCOMING. THIS IS BECAUSE SUCH DO NOT GENUINELY KNOW.
THIS AUTHOR DOES KNOW, AND HAS PUT IN THE MILES OF LEG WORK TO JUSTIFY SUCH KNOWLEDGE. CAREFUL OBSERVATION EVEN TODAY AFTER 30 ODD YEARS REVEALS A SLIGHT CHANGE TO SOIL AND VEGETATION ON ONE TINY SPOT OF LAND ON CADER BERWYN, WHICH JUST HAPPENS TO COINCIDE WITH A CROSS POINT OF SEVERAL LINES OF SIGHT GIVEN BY SEVERAL WITNESSES PLUS, A POSSIBLE ATTEMPT TO ERASE THIS. But more anon.
The UFO observed by Mrs Pat Evans was a structured object which other witnesses claim to have observed arriving and departing in a controlled manner. Mrs Evans vehemently denies ever saying to anyone that the object was two dimensional. Most reports suggest that the object did not appear to have been on the mountainside for more than about 45 minutes, but this is incorrect. One witness of several who saw the object descend onto the mountain slope has testified for a second time that the object descended onto the Cader Berwyn slope at 9.20pm, having been observed from 8.45pm. Allowing for the fact that Pat Evans didn't arrive on the scene until just before 10pm, this puts the object on the Cader Berwyn mountain for about 90 minutes. It seems it departed about 10 minutes after Mrs Evans set off for home circa 22.20.
Other evidence suggests that this particular object WAS NOT the 'crashed' UFO. Some evidence suggests that there were two objects on the mountainside. The illuminated one for want of a better description, 'assisting' an otherwise disabled craft???
There are only three scenarios here.
1) Mrs Evans was mistaken and her object was not extraterresrial in origin.
2) Mrs Evans saw a single alien craft which MIGHT possibly have been there 'studying' a seismic event.
3) Mrs Evans saw one of two alien craft, the controlled landing vehicle and the stricken one, either one of which she saw.
Pat Evans described the object as being of the magnitude of a large full moon. A bit bigger than a lamp I think!!!!
Bearing in mind that she was four miles from the area above Llandrillo where the poachers actually where earlier in the evening, it seems incredible that anyone could suggest that a makeshift lamp was an object (static), with a magnitude of a large full moon. Accompanying fairy lights concluded as Police torches, would be well nigh impossible to see at that range especially if drizzling a little, as such devices were simple two cell affairs; standard issue. And as we already know,no torcheswere used.
It has long been claimed that UFOs crash on this planet. Indeed, so many crashes have occured that Earth must be an extraterrestrial 'elephants' graveyard'!!! It is extremely unlikely that more than a half dozen such alien craft have crashed due to malfunction or pilot error in the entire earth history. It is a long way to come from an alien world for a breakdown.
More likely and certainly from the 1950s, purported crashes involving total destruction (and recovery) of vehicles and crew is as a result of pre-emptive attack by military weaponry. Far too many UFO enthusiasts are influenced by science fiction films etc and assume that craft are defended with ray guns and force fields etc.
They are not. That is why when challenged,they prefer to run.
Military fighter planes appear to be scrambled often to intercept anomalous objects invading sovereign air space. These jets in the first instance must try and identify the target and thus conclude if or not a threat is posed. As the military are well aware that alien craft visit this planet and a cover up is required to be maintained, there is no way, that an engagement will take place where civilians can witness this, or, where there is the possibility that an outright 'kill' cannot be achieved, so to avoid a downed alien craft (or human vehicle), crashing near substantial human population.
It is difficult in the highly populated UK for instance to conceive bringing down ANY object without civilian witnesses. So, certainly in Britain, it seems that alien craft are targeted with the intention of first scaring them off. However, the military wants UFO hardware and if possible bio-material for study, so if it is feasible or necessary, a fighter plane will engage a UFO when prudent to do so.
As is often the case however, locking on to an aerial target frequently involves the UFO streaking away at vast speed to avoid confrontation. If suitably defended with 'ray guns' and 'force fields' etc, our puny ballistic missiles would pose no threat, yet, the UFOs normally prefer to run when challenged. Coupled with claims of downed and crashed craft, clearly, these UFOs can be damaged or destroyed by human agency and so, the aliens run. That doesn't mean aliens won't defend themselves. It seems they just choose to avoid confrontation.
In the case of this sometimes described 'Welsh Roswell', an object was on the mountainside. In theory, it may have been pure coincidence that a craft was there soon after a seismic event. Indeed, a lone UFO might even have been gathering data on the tremor and there was no UFO crash as such involving bodies and debris. The basis of a crash originated from an explosion described by locals and which some more extreme thinking UFO enthusiasts assume caused the earth tremor.
As it can now be discounted that neither a meteor, plane or UFO caused this explosion noise, this must have been as a result of a so far unknown factor. It was not however an impacting alien craft.
Had a UFO impacted the slope of Cader Berwyn with substantial force, there would have been some evidence of this and one assumes, at least a little debris. As no GREAT clean up took place by the military, it can be assumed that little or no evidence of a crash existed. However, all events do leave tangible evidence. It is a question of finding it. Paper trails are useful but cannot be completely trusted. Many documents are seeded into the public arena to simply confuse research.
Again, as no BIG, overt or covert clear up operation occured, alien bodies could not have been recovered. Some witnesses have come forward with claims that the some military removed oblong boxes and packed these onto a truck on the Bala - Llangynog road, later transporting these to Porton Down. Various people claimed that the boxes contained aliens and that the delivery boys had the opportunity to witness the boxes being opened to reveal the contents.
This is absolute rubbish.
For intense security, any clean up operation would involve removal of as much debris as possible by helicopter and under cover of darkness, especially if preserving bio-material. With bio-material it would be absolutely imperative to preserve such and to isolate it from contamination by humans and of course, to isolate it to stop IT contaminating humans and other earthly life forms. In the case of whole or part alien bodies, it would be imperative to preserve these. Speed would be of the essence, and it would be essential to move it/them to a suitable secure location asap. Doing this by road is ludicrous.
Decontamination of the area would be demanded. This might involve burning the soil and surrounding vegetation with intense heat. Disinfection agents would be employed.
It would be difficult to employ disinfecting agents, as this would have itself contaminated the catchment waters running off Cader Berwyn - a water source used in the 1970s and to the present day both locally and more nationally.
The Afon Ceidiog for example is a stream which flows from the slopes of Cader Berwyn down through Llandrillo and into the Dee. Twelve miles further on, some of that water enters the Llangollen Canal then feeding the Shropshire Union Canal system. That water serves large parts of Cheshire particularly Crewe and Nantwich as drinking water.
The Dee water itself is also extracted at various points for human consumption.
The crash/landing site was at least 1 mile from the main Bala - Llangynog road and no tracks or trails were present to aid the transportation of anything off the mountain in that direction. The only routes off the mountain range (Cader Bronwen) was the narrow track where the Police where, and a couple of other trackways again leading off C. Bronwen, then through the narrow streets of Llandrillo to the main road (B 4401), which 4.5 miles or so away meets the A5, which in 1974 was the only major trunk road in North Wales. Military vehicles would have to leave Wales using this most tortuous route.
Certainly smaller pieces of debris could be conveyed to the Llangynog road relatively quietly and inconspicuously and perhaps if the witnesses were correct and oblong boxes were observed being carried off the hillside by military personnel (soon after the Berwyn UFO event?), they would more likely contain manageable pieces of debris rather than alien tissue. By taking stuff off the mountain via this route, less attention might be given to events by witnesses. However at this point, witness claims to this event must be classed as unreliable especially as this information originated many years after the event.
A certain Yorkshire based investigator has considered that the Bala to Ruabon railway line which once had a substantial railway station at Llandrillo might have been used to transport debris etc out of the area. This can be discounted however as the line was closed in 1968 before the event. Indeed, the track at Llandrillo was lifted by 1972 and the bridge over the River Dee near Llangollen was condemned, with many sleepers missing allowing walkers who traversed it, to look down to the river below. There would still be the problem of getting debris etc to the railway line without attracting attention.
Use of this line could not possibly have happened and today, part of it has been restored as the Llangollen railway, which is a tourist attraction.
Indeed, this particular investigator has appeared in Welsh newspapers with stories that a 20 feet wide disc was recovered intact. It even helped itself to load onto a transporting vehicle???
There is not today and there was not then, any way such a military vehicle could access the mountain be it Cader Bronwen or Cader Berwyn to conveniently access the 'crash site'. And even if it was possible, a lorry carrying a 20 feet wide disc could not pass along the narrow lanes and typical 14 feet wide metalled roads to reach the B roads and then the A roads complete with banks, hedges walls and trees.
The journey east then south would require a slow moving convoy of vehicles with almost every yard of A road temporarily closed to traffic in order for the convoy to advance along.
The theory of a crashing UFO is one thing. The theory on why such a craft crashed or more likely crash landed is another.
The time is not yet ripe to reveal more, but one compelling account claims that the Berwyn UFO was an alien craft which was involved in a shoot out with military vessels at sea. Some evidence suggests that British and American war and oceanic survey ships were involved, but other evidence suggests (for once), that the Americans were not involved, but British and Norwegian vessels were.
In brief, documentation has circulated that war ships were involved in an exercise (possibly escorting a survey vessel), off the coast of Anglesey in the Irish Sea and were 'buzzed' by a submerged unidentified object - a USO. This was forced to emerge (becoming a UFO) and engagement took place between ship(s) and alien craft resulting in possible fatal casualties of naval personnel and much more importantly, damage to the UFO.
Again, there is some evidence to suggest that the flotilla was being stalked by two USOs. Both emerged and one 'did a runner' the other coming to grief in a shoot out.
It was this same damaged UFO which purportedly came down (crashed) on Cader Berwyn.
Again, this evidence is pretty much worthless insofar as typically, other than paper work making the suggestion, names of ships, personnel, casualties all appear non existant. Scientifically, the story is almost worthless.
Investigation has revealed that the location of this altercation is completely wrong - indeed, totally impossible and research clues lead to a location some 400 miles further away in Atlantic waters.
It is believed that the documentation claiming this event is what this author calls a 'genuine fake'. That is, a genuine document which has been seeded into the public domain via a 'straw man', and which has been ever so carefully doctored so that future researchers will uncover the flaws and thus pronounce the document a fake. A nice way of giving the public real information about real events but leaving it up to the public to eventually conclude that they are bogus. Result, the public loses interest and the story is debunked.
A straw man is the title given to a person who government intelligence agencies can rely on to seize upon certain information and promote it in the public domain. He or she is fed duff or real but doctored info' which is then actively disseminated by the hapless victim.
The information in the public domain (or rather jealous private hands), is just such doctored information and relates to the above mentioned altercation specifically identifying the area of Puffin Island, a privately owned limestone island of a few acres, about 500 yards off Penmon in Anglesey, a larger island off the North Wales coast.
As above, anyone with the most rudimentary knowledge of geography, geology and oceanography will recognise instantly, that no 'battle' could possibly have taken place anywhere near such a specific location as Puffin Island (Ynys Seiriol in Welsh). Nor indeed, within ten miles of the entire Welsh coast from Anglesey to Talacre, the easternmost point of the Welsh coast before the border with England.
Of course, the whole thing might be false. Recently,this author was told that the five people involved in its creation concocted the story in a pub and created documents to support it. However,the jokeshas now gone too far and no one knowshow to extract themselveswithout losing face.
The true explanation for this will be published here in due course. However in the mean time, readers should consider that a possible clue lies not within documentation in English, but within the native Celtic languages of the British Isles.
Generally, information which surfaces is very poor in content and quality. As an example, there is a vast difference between a witness who sees a warship shoot at a UFO and reports this, and a witness who sees the same, but names the ship, describes it and gives the exact coordinances of the conflict.
Not one book ever written, for or against the Berwyn UFO for instance, gives the Ordnance Survey grid reference for any of the supporting evidence. That is poor science indeed.
This is something which will be rectified in due course.
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The railway bridge over the River Dee. Derelict in the late 60s. Now part of an ongoing restoration project by Llangollen Railway enthusiasts.
The aptly named Berwyn Tunnel. A tight curve and single track and much narrower in places than this image portrays, precludes any large item wider than a train width passing through this tunnel.
As the above mentioned Dee Bridge was derelict in the late 60s, this tunnel could not have been used by any train to remove UFO debris out of the area.
Some information has come to light, which requires a bit more investigation to confirm or deny its validity, that the Berwyn Mountain UFO was independently witnessed in Welsh (UK) airspace, by two possibly three people just prior to the seismic event centred on Bala.
One witness observed a 'UFO' in Cardigan Bay, travelling parallel to the coast heading towards Cricieth or Pwllheli. What was interesting about this sighting is that the object changed course as two jets (presumably military planes) appeared to bear down on it. It then turned towards the coast and headed inland.
Possibly the same UFO was observed by another witness near Beddgelert a few minutes later, but this time, only one 'pursuing' plane was noted.
A more fantastic claim has been made by a third witness, that he observed a military fighter plane actually fire a small missile at this UFO, hitting it. This object if it was the same UFO from the 'Puffin Island' incident, must have taken a battering, as it was apparently severely damaged by gunfire from a military vessel.
This was 'possibly' and seemingly likely, the same UFO which came down on Cader Berwyn.
Readers however should not seize upon these claims.
Some earlier obtained 'evidence' suggested that the emerging UFO which was fired upon in the Puffin Island area off the Welsh coast, crossed Anglesey and changed course when intercepted by military fighter planes, then heading to the mainland and on to Berwyn.
For this to happen, the UFO would have needed to travel towards Anglesey from the eastern side of the island, cross it, then re-cross it as it was diverted by the military planes, in order to reach the mainland and follow a rough route tying in with the A5 trunk road.
There are consistencies in this with evidence so far unearthed, that the UFO could not have originated in this part of the Irish Sea, but in fact came from elsewhere, and was still, possibly pursued by planes coming from RAF Valley on Anglesey - the same two perhaps witnessed in the North of Cardigan Bay!
I reiterate that there is no evidence whatsoever that any explosion heard by residents of Llandrillo, Llandderfel or Bala was caused by any object impacting the Berwyn range. Such an explosion is a mystery, but this author has reason to believe that the explosion was nothing more than a sonic boom.
It is therefore most unlikely that if this pursued UFO was on Berwyn, that it crashed. It might have had a bumpy landing, but no violent impact.
As residents left their homes soon after the quake allowing some to observe a craft landing in a controlled manner, two possible scenarios now arise.
1) The controlled craft was this 'damaged' UFO.
2) The damaged UFO was already on Cader Berwyn having arrived unseen and remaining so, and the controlled landing UFO was in attendance, that possibly being the craft independently observed in Cheshire and Staffordshire heading towards North Wales; possibly if information is to be believed, the second UFO which surfaced at sea and departed rapidly.
At this point, it might appear logical to assume the latter, as the reported 'explosion' was at the start of the seismic event. Nobody left their homes until the tremor started or just after, and it was just after that event that some witnesses saw the UFO and later land in a controlled manner.
Could the explosion have been a sonic boom of RAF jets over flying the area where a damaged UFO had come down?
It seems unlikely that any UFOs there that night would travel so fast as to cause a sonic boom. Certainly from reports, the damaged craft was incapable of great speed and any attendant craft if approaching the area from the English border, would in fact be slowing down? Anyway, this latter craft would be approaching Berwyn AFTER the tremor and any explosion type sound.
It should be remembered that Mrs Evans was on the Bala to Llangynog road. It was late in the evening. On her journey in that direction, and on her return journey home, she claims she saw nobody. Nothing. The only curiosity was the hillside object and small lights moving about near the object. These fairy lights as she called them have been translated as Police torches. Indeed, she herself thought these lights were torches of rescuers approaching something.
What is wrong about this scenario, is that the Police were escorted to the lower slopes of Cader Bronwen and even if they were as close to Cader Berwyn slopes as they could possibly be, they were still at least 1.5 mile from the object and would be at least 2.5 miles from Mrs Evans.
When Pat Evans observed her object, it was a glow as large as a good full moon. The surrounding terrain was pitch black and in reality, she had only a rough idea where on the slopes the object rested.
For instance, a small object can appear large if close and a large object small if far away. She believed that she had no points of reference other, than the known points on the road where she stopped. Mrs Evans therefore cannot give a true account of where the object was. She can give an estimated or educated guess where the object was, but never a true account of the landing/crash site.
Therefore, any documentation purporting to show Mrs Evans' object cannot be accurate. She now concurs with this. And it is irresponsible to include such data in any attempt to prove or discredit the validity of the event.
Therefore, any indication on any mapping which claims the object/lamp was anywhere near Police torches is suspect. It is simply wrong and scientifically worthless.
Indeed, having secured certain documents from the British Geological Survey, it has come to light that a particular document clearly shows a reference to some 3 miles difference between Mrs Evans and the position of the Police and that of the poachers. This was ommited from the Welsh Roswell report. Thereby showing that at least on the face of it, Mrs Evans was looking at a light, poachers and Police torches all in the same small area of mountainside.
The previously mentioned debunking report was authored by a man who is quite happy to point out that Mrs Evans had no points of reference in the darkness of the mountain, yet is quite happy to accept that British Geological Survey notes claim to show HER object in the same small area of mountainside as advancing Police Officers and poachers leaving the mountain.
Police records and poacher testimony amongst others, proves where exactly the poacher's vehicle partly blocked the track to the open mountain. Records of Police spreading out with torches (fairy lights) are suspect, simply because the farmer's son concerned has told other investigators in later years, that they went no further than the gateway to the mountain.
There might be a case to assume that the Police fabricated this at the time insofar as, for a 'large' explosion to arouse the locals, a suspected impacting (plane) would by definition be of a very large type. It would therefore be reasonable to assume, that at least some of this wreckage would be burning or at least showing some substantial embers. Had the Police actually searched just a few hundred yards of either Cader Bronwen or if they could possibly be there, Cader Berwyn to odd vantage points which do exist, it would be pretty obvious that a plane was down or not. They clearly did not search beyond the mountain gate, as the farmer's son has told several UFO investigators this over the years; a consistency in his story. So, if therefore Police documents state otherwise it was probably a case of there was nothing to see, so the Police officers simply cleared off and wrote otherwise in their reports.
As it happens of course, the Police were not on Cader Berwyn, as they had no need to be. The belief was, that a plane was down on Cader Bronwen due to villagers reporting lights on its lower plateau. The Police were unaware at that point what was to be observed by Mrs Evans, so had no reason whatsoever to be anywhere on Cader Berwyn, thus making any claim that poachers, Police and the mysterious object were all in the same small area of mountainside totally invalid, despite what very suspect documentation might say or what it is claimed it says.
By 9pm that evening, the Llandrillo Police were convinced of a major incident, and later Colwyn Bay Police (who really had no idea about what was happening) advised Pat Evans to lend a hand if she could. She took the most practical route to a vantage point where she could see large parts of the range looking along it towards Corwen 9 miles distant.
She was never advised to access Cader Bronwen and if she had, she would have travelled from her village of Llandderfel to Llandrillo - the totally opposite direction. Had Police Headquarters actually received accurate information, perhaps Mrs Evans might have travelled in the opposite direction to access Cader Bronwen near Llandrillo. Clearly, she received only the most vague information and so led her towards Llangynog. Clearly, despite incident logs being opened, and mountain rescue teams alerted, it is interesting how Police Headquarters were unable to advise Mrs Evans where the suspected crash was, and that was around 9.30pm.
Recall, the Police suspected a plane crash on Cader Bronwen by 9pm.
As she has stated many times, she saw nobody that night. Had there been a major incident on Cader Berwyn, the Bala - Llangynog road (the B 4391) would have had its quota of Police vehicles, as that main road, despite the terrain, is the most geographically relevent to the Cader Berwyn slopes.
The reason no Police were on that road, is that they were accessing the lower slopes of Cader Bronwen near Llandrillo. Llandrillo was the access point.
On April 21st 2007, an experiment was conducted in the dark, on the slopes of Cader Berwyn, with a lamp constructed from a car battery and headlamp. This was filmed, with all the talking recorded as communication was via CB radio.
A lamp was put through the motions of a lamping scenario. Filming was from about a half mile away, roughly where the UFO sat, and approximately 1 mile from where Mrs Evans observed it from the road side.
What was abundantly clear, was a lamp being two dimensional, it appeared to the cameraman when facing him, then disappeared as it was swept around. This is what one would expect from a lamp.
Mrs Evans saw a still object, unmoving and this coupled with other witness testimony, who observed it in situ for some 3/4 of an hour from a different angle, makes it a three dimensional object and its lack of movement precludes it from being a poacher's lamp.
As has been said earlier, the lampers are claimed by the BGS to have carried on working their lamp for 45 minutes AFTER the tremor. Assuming they started their lamp as the tremor occured, their lamp would have expired by 9.30pm. Mrs Evans did not arrive on the scene until at least 9.45pm, so whatever she saw, was not a poacher's lamp, even if it was on the same mountain. And the police could not possibly have met poachers with a lamp.
The experiment shows concisely, that even a good lamp, from a half mile, looks itself, no bigger than a torch. Obviously, it would be smaller again if observed from the main road.
As such, Police torches would not be visible to the naked eye had they even been on Berwyn, which they were not, from the B 4391. So, from at least a mile away from her car, Mrs Evans and her two daughters (whose testimony is suspiciously missing from the debunking lamp story), could not have been looking at Police torches.
As mentioned above, Mrs Evans could not be sure of her bearings for the hillside object. Having knowledge of exactly where she stopped on the two occasions that evening, plus photographs taken in daylight and marked by her, where she thought the object was, cross referencing from the known positions of both the peaks of Cader Berwyn and Moel Sych and the position of other witnesses to the arrival/departure and, taking into account the undulating terrain interrupting lines of sight etc, it has been possible to narrow down to a few metres, where the object must have been.
At this range from the main road, as above stated, at approximately 1 mile, a 1974 style headlamp and battery lamping unit appears as nothing more than a very large torch light. Torch lights themselves (and I'm aware of the type issued to Police officers at that time) could perhaps just be seen at that distance if ones eyes are good and the atmospherics are excellent but would be pinpricks. However, again, Mrs Evans was looking at Cader Berwyn. The Police were on Cader Bronwen, some four miles from the B 4391 Bala - Llangynog road.
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